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http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/localnews/ci_8138206

  It's funny how everything seems to come full circle for the amfanuts.  Had they only listened to us in the first place we could have saved them this trouble and the lost jobs that AMFA's wrought from Alaska Airlines, Northwest and now UAL.  Who knows when Southwest will learn the same lesson?  Our bet is AMFA will have nothing left or be bankrupt soon.

Name: he who knows
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Date: Friday February 01, 2008
Time: 09:11:41 PM

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he ralph hows your family doing? Did you really believe you were something in that union. You dont even know why planes fly. see you in the future, things are changing fast , lets see if you can hold on. hope to see you soon.

Name: Old Crew Chief
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Station: NOT NWA, THANKS TO amfa
Date: Wednesday January 23, 2008
Time: 02:53:17 PM

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Just received the lastest edition of the amfa Grapevine. Spanky MacFarlane talks about the men and women who went to work for NWA after the strike started and said because of them NWA was successful in the destruction of the other workers. Hello, are these the same workers that were going to quit when the strike started? The same ones all the amfa non-negotiators told us they were using NWA. You dope addicts sure changed your tune. According to you buffoons, these people were harmless and now you tell us THEY were responsible for the destruction of our jobs. No, amfa was responsible for the destruction of the aircraft MECHANIC's jobs at NWA. You stooges really did not and still do not have a clue. It will be nice when all of the airlines that have amfa on the property get rid of these geniuses. Same newsletter, some dope (Dave Quinn, wearing a big shit eating grin) talks about the IBT peddling snake oil at UAL. What was scamfa peddling at NWA? amfa said that they do not strike and the members get to vote on everything. I vote that we put this guy in a room and let the 8,500 people who lost their careers at NWA go in and wipe the smile off this punk's face. Mr. Queen, I mean, Quinn is so proud of how much amfa has done at UAL to control outsourcing. The chart he presents shows the oursourcing at UAL at 7.7% in 1995 when the IAM was there and 44.9% now with amfa at the wheel. Nice job. Lot's to brag about at NWA, also. 18.6% in 1995 (IAM) and 72.0% in 2006 (amfa). The contract that amfa negotiated at NWA expires in 2011. By then, the outsourcing should be at 100%. I'll bet Mr. Queen is so happy because half of the NWA mechs did not lose their jobs !!

Name: Pennsylvania Electrician
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Date: Friday January 18, 2008
Time: 07:16:03 PM

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I saw them 'dissing' Scott Fisher the other day on the exNWA website. I remember Scott Fisher as an excellent R&E. He mentored all of us when he was part of our crew. Now I am working as a commercial electrician in Pennsylvania. And I often think of the basic foundation in electricity he imbued me with. Well, I was one of the technicians laid off when the SARS thing happened. To be honest, I felt down as to AMFA; I sensed us “technicians” low on seniority were cannon folder for the chosen. I mean AMFA sure did not see power in numbers then, or one for all and all for one…funny that they saw it differently in the end.

Name: cat
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Date: Thursday January 10, 2008
Time: 09:11:25 PM

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A picture painted is a picture created bye only the one who made it. learn not to be the ink but the one who uses the ink. Amfa sucks and my fault was that I let that picture be painted without my hand. Never again. Thanks for the lesson. Ill never forget what I have learned. I alone am the artist. I alone paint the picture. Good luck to all life is to short to listen to fools.

Name: a man with 27 years down the drain
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Employer: A better place
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Date: Thursday January 10, 2008
Time: 01:33:39 AM

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I guess Dell was right. It really was an industry changing contract :( I posted this same thing at "The Honorables" web site (I was just trying to stir some s**t) and all I got was a question mark for a comment. What a bunch of dumb mother fu^^^rs!

Name: notnwa
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Date: Thursday January 03, 2008
Time: 11:36:01 AM

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AFTER RUINING MY CHANCE TO RETIRE. I SEE DELLA FEMINA GETS TO RETIRE. TO BAD HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE MY FUTURE. HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME FOR WHAT YOU DID TO US. THE IAM NEVER SANK THAT LOW.

Name: The (former) Ultimate Cleaner
Email: screwedbyamfa@nwa.com
Employer: (formerly) NWA
Station: MSP
Date: Thursday January 03, 2008
Time: 11:22:37 AM

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Did you get a load of Ted Lughead's "good-bye" letter to the SCAMFA membership? This guy is so delusional it's scary. Now he's going to work for a medical device company? I hope I NEVER need a device he's had any contact with. In his letter he states how he and a couple ofther Kool-aid drinkers worked for no pay (until the other locals put up some money to keep buying Kool-aid) and how they saw the strike through till the end. I wonder if Custer would have written the same kind of letter to his men after they were wiped out at the Little Big Horn? The only difference was that Custers men had a choice, where SCAMFA members never had a choice on the comapany's last offer. How does a thing like a Ted Lughead exisit? The Kool-Aid drinker love to quote Jack London's discription of a scab... for example "After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, the vampire, He had some awful substance left with which He made a scab." Well... what he had left after making the scab, he created Ted Lughead and the SCAMFA zombies!!! Thanks for destroying the jobs of thousands Ted. My advice now is to find out what medical device company he works for and DUMP THE STOCK BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!

Name: none
Email: to CAT
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Date: Thursday December 27, 2007
Time: 11:53:26 PM

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How many of those cleaners crossed to take away our jobs. By imposing their strike on us,amfa helped nwa and then they forgave the scabs that crossed. I will never forget what the basters at amfa did to me.

Name: exNWA.com
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Date: Sunday December 23, 2007
Time: 12:18:30 AM

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What is the mission statement of exNWA.com...Is it just another hate based organization...or does it stand for a higher order value? Does it stand for the rights of Workers and also the right of Entrepreneurs...does it stand for the efficiency and work ethic of both? Or does it just protect the inefficient, the lazy..i.e. the socialist? Curious, what does exNWA.com really stand for...What an outsider sees so far is that it stands for is just Hate.

Name: Zorro @ UAL
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Employer: U KNOW
Station: ORD
Date: Sunday December 16, 2007
Time: 11:32:15 AM

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I realize you guys are busy making a living and I fully understand why you're not able to keep up the site much anymore. I still appreciate the time you do spend. Please get the message out about the teamster representation effort at UAL so we can be rid of the amfa for good. Hopefully we'll be voting soon. Not that I think Teamster representation will be utopia, but I know amfa was a complete failure.

Name: Observer
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Station: ORD
Date: Saturday December 08, 2007
Time: 10:36:50 AM

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the festering boil on organized labor's ass is about to get lanced at UAL, by the Teamsters, a just payback for what happened to the Teamsters at SWA. The association took over at SWA with that old tried and true formula of smoke, mirrors, and that rare quality and quantity "professionalism" and what other BS that they could come up with and got the Teamsters off the property.........and got a very fine contract to administer that was negotiated by the Teamsters......One thing about the association, they were and still are a small group, and is it a coincidence that after they get to represent you, they make sure the company downsizes so they don't have too many people to represent, as that would cost money to do so, and the leaders of the organization would suffer............so at NWA they represent scabs now, and what does a good oinment cost to keep from scracthing a scab, probably a buck ninety eight. you get what you pay for.

Name: long gone
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Station: somewhere usa
Date: Friday December 07, 2007
Time: 05:59:20 PM

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what a riot the so called honorable are. The blame game is correct,that is all they have left.I was reminded of a conversation with a amfa supporter years ago. He reminded me that I told him that if he helped get amfa in and ruined my career that I would hunt him down like a dog.Well I will give him credit for seeing his mistake.You know amfa wants to blame everyone else .Well it was not the scabsl fault,or the IAM or flight attendants or pilots it was only amfa's fault noone elses,they alone screwed every mechanic.Even those dufus honorable brain dead amfa supporters.They screwed over the wives and kids and the mechanic careers.Screw you amfa..

Name: out of ual
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Date: Thursday December 06, 2007
Time: 06:51:23 AM

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In the UAL election coming up I think I will vote for scamfa. The dumb asses deserve them, when they voted for them they voted me out of a job, now I can return the favor. You wanted them so bad you can keep them.

Name: One step closer
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Station: UAL
Date: Wednesday December 05, 2007
Time: 04:27:17 AM

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www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-ap-il-united-mechanics,0,1267359.story chicagotribune.com Teamsters move to oust union representing United mechanics Associated Press 2:41 PM CST, December 3, 2007 CHICAGO The Teamsters sought the right Monday to represent United Airlines mechanics, filing a petition and predicting it will win an election to displace the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association in early 2008. The union, which already represents more than 40,000 airline employees, has been pushing for two years to represent the mechanics at UAL Corp.'s United. "We expect an election in the next six weeks and we are confident we will prevail," Clacy Griswold, international representative of the Teamsters' airline division, said at a news conference after the petition was filed with the National Mediation Board. Many mechanics are disgruntled by United's move to outsource maintenance work overseas as well as by the possibility the Chicago-based airline may sell its Mileage Plus program and its heavy maintenance facility in San Francisco, where about 3,000 of its nearly 6,000 mechanics work. "United management is betraying both its workers and its passengers who trust that the airline is using the most skilled ground and flight crew employees and the safest equipment," Griswold said. "Airline mechanics throughout the aviation industry want good skilled jobs to stay in the United States. So do the Teamsters." Like numerous other United employees, the mechanics also are upset by what they see as excessive executive pay at the airline. The Teamsters are required to have 50 percent of employee support for the union change in order for the election to be held. Asked about the effort, AMFA official Joseph Prisco said the rival union has been making false promises to the mechanics. "The difference between us and the Teamsters is that we put out all the information that people need, not just the option that they're trying to push," he said. "We expect to win if people vote with their heads and not their emotions." Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Name: AIRCON
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Date: Tuesday December 04, 2007
Time: 11:02:23 PM

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Well it's been a few weeks since I've checked the board and it's slowed down a bit here. I saw the news about the teamsteers filing and thought I'd drop by. I've been getting the information from the teamsters but haven't sent a card. I have a problem with so many of the same assholes that brought me AMFA telling me how good it's going to be with the Teamsters. Everything you claimed about the IAM to be a problem is a fact with the teamsters. Hired officials and not voted, highest dues in the industry blah blah blah. All you are going to manage accomplishing is being decertified and becoming at will employees. Not that it would be noticable on the job everyday but benefits long fought for will be gone as the contract would cease to exist. I would like for John Flanagan, Jim Sietz, Dennis Sanderson and the whole AMFA cheerleading bunch to re-stand, get up! All you invisible chumps who started and caused this mess called AMFA get your asses back up and continue the fight you started. I don't care if you don't work at UAL, you caused this crap so you don't have the right to hide now. You chickenshits get back out there, Ray Darbrough and your buddies, where the hell are you now? Chicken shit bastards hiding and denying your involvement in the mess. Standing behind someone else throwing the stones like you always did. You said it was the answer to all mechanics problems, just vote AMFA, well get your ass back out here and lead the masses. Or come to this board all of you and apologize for ruining the jobs of thousands at UAL and tell us why we should vote for the Teamsters.

Name: cat
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Employer: spaceship1
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Date: Monday December 03, 2007
Time: 09:33:39 PM

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my job was given away for a cleaner. I went to school and received an education in aviation for what. For what was to loose it all because of a cleaner. Sorry to be so direct but its the truth. Amfa sucks they do not have a clue in the world of business. good luck at united.

Name: Domain Name: EXNWA.COM
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Date: Wednesday November 28, 2007
Time: 08:34:03 PM

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Domain Name: EXNWA.COM Registrant: Web Master ATTN: EXNWA.COM c/o Network Solutions P.O. Box 447 Herndon, VA 20172-0447 Administrative Contact : Web Master ATTN: EXNWA.COM c/o Network Solutions P.O. Box 447 Herndon, VA 20172-0447 Phone: 570-708-8780 Technical Contact : Web Master ATTN: EXNWA.COM c/o Network Solutions P.O. Box 447 Herndon, VA 20172-0447 Phone: 570-708-8780 I suppose an AMFA coward (the exNWA.com Webmaster) who cannot post his/her real name which is required by law.

Name: The Fallen
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Date: Tuesday November 20, 2007
Time: 12:32:51 AM

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How far the so called "Honorably" have fallen. They live in the world of the "blame game"; they live in the world of hate. Can they propel themselves into the future? Can they become independent & self-reliant? No, I think they cannot for they live in the world of socialism, the world of the lowest common denominator, the world of mediocrity.

Name: Any remember "The Mechanic.com."
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Employer: Suffering at Untied
Station: Left Coast
Date: Monday November 12, 2007
Time: 04:31:03 PM

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Oh how I wish Sanderson would come back just for one week. He could share his current opinion about amfa, and thousands could vent with their hard earned opinions. I feel that he did more harm to airline mechanics then Tilton, Crandell, etc combined. What say, any others have an opinion?
 

Isn't that the truth!  That's the reason we started this website, to give "everyone" a voice and the freedom to ask questions rather than to have your posts deleted like Sanderson did on his pro-amfa bulletin board.  Look what his lies did to our careers!  He let the AMFA wolves in the chicken house,  they slaughtered our careers, losing our jobs and promoted the outsourcing of our work with so called "Out Sourcing Caps" and the like.  An AMFA outsourcing cap of 38% at NWA didn't really mean 38% it meant like 80% and AMFA never made a single attempt to defend our jobs or their language.  Instead, when the AMFA was sinking they drug everyone left at NWA down with their ship.

Name: Old Crew Chief
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Date: Sunday November 04, 2007
Time: 03:23:46 AM

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When it is all said and done, and I do mean DONE, the genius amfa leaders can take responsiblity for sticking to their egomanical ideals and insuring the destruction of the jobs, careers and lives of the "aircraft MECHANIC". No one really cared what our title was except the egomanics at amfa "no brain waves" dickheadquarters. Isn't is amazing how outsourcing is alive and well at NWA and UAL? What is the name of the mechanics' NON-union at those two companies? I am sure the amfools are sitting around trying to figure a way to blame the IAM. Hey amfools, give up, you are to blame, no one else. Don't blame the airlines. Remember your mantra? You had the resources to fend off the evil airlines and negotiate contracts that would bring the airlines to their knees. What a crock! I can't wait until the only people that amfa represents is outsourced workers knocking down a handsome wage that is below poverty level. Poetic Justice !! amfa was right about one thing. They are not a UNION. They are the exact opposite of a UNION. Their goal is to lose union jobs and destroy the lives of their members. I wonder how much dough amfa gets from the airlines for insuring the success of the outsourcing programs.

Name: Observer
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Station: ORD
Date: Saturday November 03, 2007
Time: 11:00:10 AM

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Is it a coincidence or is it a real fact that where ever the association shows up, scabs show up a short time later to claim the jobs that organized labor made worthwhile? Alaska, NWA come to mind, UAL is waiting in the wings to join the scab list...........and yet people still believe and drink the KOOL_AID...........does that then reflect how ignorant individuals are in today's world?

Name: SCABSUK
Email: to man from arrogance
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Date: Thursday November 01, 2007
Time: 08:08:54 AM

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The thank you letter should be to the scab mechanics for betraying their fellow employees. Man from arrogance sounds like the man from ignorance.........maybe you just don't spell well. Most scabs don't!!!

Name: Me
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Date: Wednesday October 31, 2007
Time: 01:51:05 PM

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We didn't just lose our jobs we lost our careers, our education, our means of supporting our families.//////////////////////////////////How does someone lose their education?????????????

  When your diploma or degree is for a field that no longer exists and that diploma or degree is not applicable to any other field or trade for example an Airframe and Power Plant license in MSP, DTW or DLH and even perhaps in Atlanta where AMFA lost over 1600 NWA Mechanic and related jobs with the original NWA/AMFA maintenance base closing. 

Name: nowbos
Email: na
Employer: exnwa
Station: exdca
Date: Wednesday October 31, 2007
Time: 05:09:30 AM

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I told all you dca dumbassas that amfa was worthless. they sold you out again. yep lets just stand their and get our asses kicked. that was their moto. people like mars who went to management. and those stupid shop stewards who act like their somekind of attorneys are losers also. If you want to be an attorney than go to law school. having an a&p does not count. Those people are only a&ps not attorneys. So shut all your holes cause amfa sold you out as well. Just as I PREDICTED!!!!!! The only thing you will ever be is a a&p so get over yourselves and act the blue collar laborer that you are.I will end this with a antiunion antidemocrat joke . what is the difference between a amfa rep and a bag of s*it ? answer : THE BAG

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: Get Ready UAL..Bend Over
Employer: AMFA Boyz...Get that head
Station: between yer legz!
Date: Tuesday October 30, 2007
Time: 08:36:50 PM

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FARMOUTS!! Get ready UAL boys!! Remember, you heard it here first!! Your Farm-Out loving AMFA will put you out on the street just like they did to us at NWA. It's all your own fault and I pity you NOT!!...Don't be so foolish and arrogant...But, you cannot be saved since you are already caught in the blind-kool-aid stupor!. Remember how you ditched us Red-Tails like a bad date after we went out on "Strike" in order to give "honor" to the airline worker and save YOUR jobs?? Remember, you AMFA loving chumps??... You all got it coming to ya for sticking with AMFA...and for watching your so-called "Union" brothers at NWA go down in flames in the name of Herr DELL and your AMFA!!. Shame-Shame. My grand-dad once said "Son..all justice will be served..You just have to give it enough time.."..ha ha you stupid amfanuts! Should have stuck with the IAM!! Fools...Hey, better hurry..SPIRIT is still hiring...:)

Name: Night Hawk
Email: How about that AMFA now
Employer: Energy Company in TC 16/hr 2nd shift
Station: Twin Cities
Date: Tuesday October 30, 2007
Time: 12:34:41 PM

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UAL AMFA members, how does it feel? How does it feel? To be on your own? A complete unknown? ......LMAO..... Yes sir, no concessionary bargaining from AMFA, no outsourcing, iron clad contact language negotiated by AMFA's lawyers, open negotiations, no "side letters", 900 AMFA scabs at NWA, I wonder how many they're be at UAL?

Name: A Man From Arrogance
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Station: msp
Date: Monday October 29, 2007
Time: 11:08:41 PM

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Nwa made over 400 million dollar quarterly profit. The new mech's are paying big dividends for the company. hope nwa sends a thank you letter to AMFA

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: R&E Man
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Date: Sunday October 28, 2007
Time: 09:32:58 AM

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Hey Stupid...I found a new career LONG LONG ago. THANKS to YOUR AMFA! It's idiots like you that don't have a clue about anything. Go back under your rock. Dumbass.

Name: Red Tail
Email: amfasucks@dell.com
Employer: Where I want
Station: Same
Date: Wednesday October 24, 2007
Time: 06:57:24 PM

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I'm confused, not that, that is anything new but here’s the deal. The knuckleheads at UAL and NWA refused to listen to anyone when they merrily dove into the AMFA. AS a result the NWA crew lost their jobs to a man and the UAL is following in drips and drabs. Do to their farm out fiasco the industry is screwed for at least a decade to come. In spite of all that Dell and his band of idiots settled the so-called strike with NWA and signed a contract with good ole NWA. Life is good with the coolaid crew, or so one would think. Now would one of you self-righteous butt wipes out there tell me why in the hell you are so worried about where people choose to go to work? IE: the red tail, vendors etc. It’s over you friggen idiots, you killed it!

Name: Screwed
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Date: Thursday October 18, 2007
Time: 08:16:14 PM

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I get a big kick out of the scamfa addicts.Tey will never forgive the scabs.Well I will never forgive the scamfa leadership,if you can call them that,for what they did.They have only themselves to blame.They should have led.Instead their egos got in the way.Then they have the guts to tell us that we shouldn't want to work for nwa,and then they ran and got themselves jobs elsewhere.No sorry it is scamfa's fault not the scabs .They tried to salvage what was left of once a great career.scamfa blew that too.I do agree on one thing.The poor mechs that are left,are completely screwed without any representation.Nwa will roll over them sooner or later,and to think scamfa can't be any worse than the IAM.Remember that great scamfa quote.Screw scamfa forever.....

Name: Old Crew Chief
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Date: Wednesday October 10, 2007
Time: 07:11:54 PM

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UAW strikes Chrysler from 10AM - 5PM. I wonder if the dickweed negotiators from amfa could borrow the UAW playbook. Did the leader of the UAW tell Chrysler and GM that the members did not care how long the strike lasted like Deldo Famine? Tell me again about how there is no power in number. Just another fairy tale from the fairies at amfa.

Name: SAILOR
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Date: Monday October 08, 2007
Time: 11:56:24 AM

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The title of this comment is "Sleeping With the Enemy" FACT-AMFA is allowing the replacement workers to join the union and become "honorable". Stick that in your AMFA cocktail and drink it.

Name: The R&E Man
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Employer: The Big U
Station: America
Date: Monday October 08, 2007
Time: 11:11:00 AM

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Just thought I would say hello while working my cozy aviation job at the terminal.Got some good news here.Looks like by early next year all are laysoffs will be recalled.There's hope now for you boneheads that can't get a job doing anything else.So now Amfaboner can stop crying and apply.Hopefully theTeamsters will be in by then too.Good Luck!

Name: Old Crew Chief
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Date: Thursday September 27, 2007
Time: 07:12:45 AM

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What's up with those sissies at GM? The UAW better borrow amfa'a playbook the next time they go out on strike. Instead of being on strike for 2 days and keeping jobs for 75,000 workers they could have been on strike for 444 days and lost thousands of jobs forever. I guess the UAW is still under the impression that there is strength in numbers. Haven't they ever heard of transferable skills? Instead of negotiating concessions for new hires the UAW could have negotiated throwing the senior workers under the bus like the jag negotiators at amfa. Letting NWA off the hook for millions of $ in pensions was a strategic play by amfa. NWA wanted a strike and amfa gave them one. That's the first rule in the amfa negotiators' handbook. "Always give the company exactly what they want." How unique was it to have the head of the UAW on the news and on the front page of newspapers making intelligent comments instead of being in a closet playing with his ding-a-ling like Deldo Famine? Let's not forget that amfa negotiated our name change from "mechanics" to "TECHNICIANS" (without jobs).

Name: HELPUAW
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Date: Tuesday September 25, 2007
Time: 10:31:42 AM

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OK AMFA,STEP UP TO THE PLATE.WE SENT YOU MONEY,HOW ABOUT PONYING UP DELLE.Send us all you can.Get your dues paying members at NWA to donate...

Name: Mike Oxbig
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Employer: inurass@udknowit.com
Station: former Red Ass
Date: Saturday September 22, 2007
Time: 12:10:37 PM

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OK Mr.. no vote...I dont know what meeting you went to but the fact was that the strike vote was held MONTHS ... MANY MONTHS.... before any contract was sent our way to look at..... In all of my years I have never seen a STRIKE VOTE taken without a contract to vote on as well....oh yes and about your so called meeting the STRIKE BALLOTS WERE MAILED TO YOUR HOME...just like all amfa votes it was done thru true ballot...all that strike vote did was to paint a target on our backs (even more than what was already there) and gave the ole RED ASS time to spend months preparing for what was to the most ill fated strike in the history of aviation... before you talk shit get your facts straight....

Name: not nwa
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Date: Thursday September 20, 2007
Time: 07:41:19 AM

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amfa told us that we didn't want to go back to NWA, but they sure won't leave. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Name: not nwa
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Date: Wednesday September 19, 2007
Time: 06:52:17 PM

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If you didn't vote on the contract then you must not have gone to the meetings because all of us in DTW voted to go out on strike at the meeting. so keep on working for the man SCAB XXXXX Since when did we vote on a contract at a Union meeting. You amfanuts will say any thing to pass the blame.

Name: NWASUCKS
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Employer: no longer NWA
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Date: Wednesday September 19, 2007
Time: 01:04:55 PM

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Thanks for not protecting my seniority AMFA. Now NWA is hiring and you gave away recall rights for the laid off! Thanks for nothing bone heads.///// They are not hiring for mechanics, they are trying to completely rid themselves of the mechanics, so they weren't considering you anyway, they haven't even opened many positions for the 600 or so that remain on the recall list! Get a life!

  I think you missed his/her point.  AMFA screwed over those on layoff when they settled their strike and gave away three years of their recall rights!  Without letting them vote!  How's that for AMFA's democracy?

Name: Old Crew Chief
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Date: Wednesday September 19, 2007
Time: 12:56:07 AM

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You can spew all of the rhetoric you want about amfa getting mechs at NWA the big bucks. My only question is what have the NWA mechs got now? All amfa did was put a target on the backs of the mechanics and stereotype them as greedy. amfa let NWA off the hook for millions in pension dough. NWA has contractors worldwide performing maint on NWA aircraft as a result of amfa's cotton clad farmout clause. amfa's support for the "honorable" during the strike was a disgusting joke. They couldn't and didn't do shit for us except wipe out our careers in order to prove a point. amfa was too busy trying to make sure that they did not lose the UAL dues money. Better clean up and sober up the negotiating bums that amfa calls lawyers. It is time for them to get their ass handed to them at UAL. I wonder what kind of sorry excuse they will give when they take a dried up piece of crap contract from UAL. Look on the bright side, at least you will still have a job. Full pay until the last day. The last day came for NWA. Who's next?

Name: not nwa
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Date: Tuesday September 18, 2007
Time: 11:13:52 PM

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I BELIEVE that what amfa has done to its own members is finally sinking in. Of course some die hard amfa supports will try to tell you that mechanics have been RECALLED to NWA. They are still in denial, and will be for the rest of their lives. They don't like the Truth, so they just ignore it.

Name: out in the cold
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Employer: xnwa
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Date: Tuesday September 18, 2007
Time: 07:25:32 PM

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" UAL AMFA...You are the one's still with careers...You threw us (NWA) overboard and offered little to support us "Honorable" striking members. Go live with yourselves and your selfish AMFA at UAL. By the way, jack ass, I have grown a big pair...Since you are so interested. I'd like to see you lose everything and make it on the outside...I doubt you'd have any balls to do that... You still hide insode your cozy aviation UAL job. You proved you were too scared because you took a worse contract than NWA was offered. I consider you AMFA bunch at UAL worse than scabs...You threw over your so-called 'Union" brothers so you could stay employed. Truth hurts....And UAL is planning big far-outs...More truth since UAL continues to slide back into losses. Dump amfa now...but you are too stupid and arrogant to know anything." You know I never agree with AMFABONER but this statement is spot on

Name: AMFA is Evil
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Tuesday September 18, 2007
Time: 05:18:25 PM

Comments

Thanks for not protecting my seniority AMFA. Now NWA is hiring and you gave away recall rights for the laid off! Thanks for nothing bone heads.

Name: Mike Oxbig
Email:
Employer: inurass@udknowit.com
Station: former Red Ass
Date: Tuesday September 18, 2007
Time: 04:20:31 PM

Comments

I see that that amfa has decided to meet with the ole red ass to try and improve the conditions for the SCABS.... WTF....but then again it does not surprise me in any way...oh yes and here is the direct quote from amfa 33......." September 14, 2007 AMFA and NWA will meet on Monday to discuss non-cost, quality of life issues that could be implemented. We have heard every derogatory comment there could be surrounding this issue, so there is no need to email us unless you have a productive idea. " this is from ted lug head I thought that amfa was going to decertify if the SCABS stayed.... once again another lie.... I hope that the amfa supporters that have lost their jobs to this so called strike would see that they are being totally betrayed by amfa...Ludwig , Klemm , Mathews and Mcfarlane you have all become what claimed to have hated you are all SCAB supporters and traitors to all the people that stood with you or those of us that just morraly could not cross the line....

Name: no vote
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Friday September 07, 2007
Time: 12:40:13 PM

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If you didn't vote on the contract then you must not have gone to the meetings because all of us in DTW voted to go out on strike at the meeting. so keep on working for the man SCAB

Name: For the Honorable
Email: Hate Amfa till the day...
Employer:
Station:
Date: Wednesday September 05, 2007
Time: 09:18:07 PM

Comments

Heard that the GOV has concluded the investigations into to what happened on Aug 18th 05 from 100's of interviews with IAM bag smashers looking for suspicious activity, and managers that were on the lookout that night , supeonas and indictments are forth coming in the following weeks.I would hate to be an Honorable with guilt on my doorstep! What comes around, goes around. Of course my source could be wrong!

Name: Hey Me Too
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Wednesday September 05, 2007
Time: 03:53:12 PM

Comments

Teamsters did cross the picket line and were on the property two weeks prior to the strike They did jetway maintenance (and did it poorly)

Name: SCABSUK
Email:
Employer: SELF
Station:
Date: Wednesday September 05, 2007
Time: 09:39:40 AM

Comments

To all you scabs and scab lovers. I am not a AMFANUT but I am definitely not a SCAB. uz2bmsp is obviously a proud SCAB and if not endorsed, at least tolerated without comment from you Blue Poo. There are NO excuses to SCAB period. Debate the strike or not voting on the companys offer of getting rid of all but 1200 mechanics but the scabs are scabs. It is unarguable that the scabs crossing the picket line(yes it was a picket line) weakened our effort. But at least it was an effort. I voted for the IAM and served on their shop committee and negotiations but would be ashamed to be a part of them now!! Announcing that cleaning planes was their work anyways during the strike shows you what whores they are. Now there is something to argue. So if the IAM ever got the balls to strike NWA and AMFA crossed their line to load or clean planes that would be alright?!?!?! I hope that all of the SCABS had a good time explaining to their kids what LABOR Day meant-personally I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror.

Name: uz2bmsp
Email:
Employer:
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Date: Monday September 03, 2007
Time: 08:44:43 PM

Comments

Hey R e man at Ual. Get ready you are going to feel the pain real soon.Scamfa bs'd you guys and you knew better.The knives will be out at UAL once the cutting gets started,you don't have a chance with those scamfa dopes representing you. Remember this. Scamfa told everyone we vote on everything.Remember... Well the most important thing at NWA for the mechanics was to vote on their livelyhood.Nothing nada.The incompetent boobs and egomaniacs decided to give it a go.Bad judgement.WE tried to warn everyone about their lack of experience,but nooooo.They can't do worse than the IAM.Remember those statements during the election.Screw Scamfa forever and those that brought that scourge to mechanics everywhere.Southwest better get ready,I am already laughing...

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: Amfanators
Employer:
Station:
Date: Monday September 03, 2007
Time: 03:18:21 PM

Comments

I just wanted to thank all involved in this board. Like you, I have been forced, THANKS TO AMFA, to change careers, and make a restart...No to mention extra hours and such. I'll always have distain for anything or anyone related to that miserable, scum sucking organization called AMFA. All the fools that still believe in this crooked outfit shall be damned by thier own ignorance. Well, I just wanted to say thanks for running this board just in case you guys need to leave or I find no time to post...There's life beyond amfa...that's for sure...Take care....

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: AMFA UAL Clowns
Employer:
Station:
Date: Monday September 03, 2007
Time: 03:14:08 PM

Comments

UAL AMFA...You are the one's still with careers...You threw us (NWA) overboard and offered little to support us "Honorable" striking members. Go live with yourselves and your selfish AMFA at UAL. By the way, jack ass, I have grown a big pair...Since you are so interested. I'd like to see you lose everything and make it on the outside...I doubt you'd have any balls to do that... You still hide insode your cozy aviation UAL job. You proved you were too scared because you took a worse contract than NWA was offered. I consider you AMFA bunch at UAL worse than scabs...You threw over your so-called 'Union" brothers so you could stay employed. Truth hurts....And UAL is planning big far-outs...More truth since UAL continues to slide back into losses. Dump amfa now...but you are too stupid and arrogant to know anything...

Name: SPOOF
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Monday September 03, 2007
Time: 11:50:22 AM

Comments

to Ben Dover-- What are you whining about? We vote on everything, it's just that, not EVERYBODY gets to vote on everything! Look back in history-- AMFA never but never won a strike, 35 years ago they got a bung shoved in their bung hole. The same story then-- it' all your fault!!

Name: Ricardo Partida
Email: r2partida@sbcglobal.net
Employer: American airlines
Station: DFW
Date: Sunday September 02, 2007
Time: 03:00:06 PM

Comments

Fraternal Brothers and Sisters, Amfanuts bulletin board has helped me indescribably in our fight against the plague that is amfa. I am a member of The Transport Worker Union. The words coming from this board inspired and made me most determined to fight off the decertification drive at American of this selfish, elitist and fratricidal association. At American Airlines we have those that still aligned themselves with the amfa mantra. We can’t convince everybody but we still try. To me, what made this board so special was that the words written were the words and sentiments of the members. The informative and genuine postings from your board can not be cancelled without a word of the most sincere thanks. THANK YOU!!!!! Ricardo Partida TWU Local 513

Name: Mike Oxbig
Email:
Employer: inurass@udknowit.com
Station: former Red Ass
Date: Sunday September 02, 2007
Time: 12:45:33 PM

Comments

In response to uz2bmspb.....you also have to remember that some of the scab contractors who took over were teamsters ... so it not a strech to let the rest of the scabs in....as far as not caring I can also see where you are coming from as I have left aviation and also left any union job....but I also refuse to give any of these people a free pass...just as I will not give any amfa supporter a free pass.....or any manager at the ol red ass just the same NO FREE PASS...I have seen to it that 2 people were not hired into where I work due to the fact that they are scabs....my boss came to me and asked we looked over the scab list and also at the time when they claimed to have worked at the ole red ass.....this is just he way it will be forever.. I dont go looking for scabs but if I come across one trying to stink up my new place of empolyment I will do all that I can to keep them out....

Name: Re Wing nut( left or right ) ha
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Sunday September 02, 2007
Time: 01:23:28 AM

Comments

I am of the belief in a theory, that no Onion would sell there members down the road, unless a cataclysmic event happened during the negotiations! You must read between the lines. If the onion brought there proposals to the ongoing negotiations, but what was presented to them by the Company, was a docket of "F"inger , "B"oner, "I" tell files from 1 minute after the strike zone at AMF, it would look like a 7 and 10 pin fuck up. Think about it. I cant get over the fact that I had to sign a document for my 10 gees that said you can never work for NWA again! We were black balled. But the company knew they needed people to cross so they took a chance on whoever. There is something missing from the picture that was hidden from the membership view. Those people who did what they did, knew that is might have had serious problems for the commitee. And the people that never sleep are still watching us. I used to go to that Exnwa.come but now I know they suck. Half the stuff I commented on they wacked. I turned in my badge of Honor and told them to stick it up Bozo's ass.

Name: Ben Dover
Email: ontheinside@nwa.com
Employer: nwa
Station: msp
Date: Saturday September 01, 2007
Time: 02:16:14 PM

Comments

Remember "AMFA's" slogan "WE VOTE ON EVERYTHING".

Name: me too
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Saturday September 01, 2007
Time: 01:00:21 PM

Comments

teamsters one of the few unions that did not cross the pickline were i was thank you

Name: The R&E Man
Email:
Employer: UAL
Station: America
Date: Saturday September 01, 2007
Time: 09:43:40 AM

Comments

To Teamster Local 120,very good post.All scabs should be lined up and shot!We welcome the Teamsters here at UAL.Hopefully sometime in 08.To Amfaboner,Local 120 is not the one crying,It's you!You need to get over it and grow a set.How many tissue boxes do you go though a week?And to uz2bmsp,Rot in you know where Scab!

Name: dough-dough
Email: HEHEHAHA
Employer:
Station:
Date: Saturday September 01, 2007
Time: 07:36:18 AM

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subject: No Homo Erotic SCAB messages here and that's a good thing. name: Restroom Police email: Date: Friday, August 31, 2007 comment: Is it true that one of the SCABS was also arrested with the Idaho Congressman during the MSP restroom bust? Some people need to clean up there collective act a little bit. Don't allow SCABS to post messages here. Let the SCABS keep posting there illiterate messages on restroom walls. YUK! ------------------------------------------------------------- I got a kick out of that statement. Read it closely and you'll see the irony. Too damn funny!!!!!!!!! That really speaks volumes for the mentality of the average AMFA supporter at that koolaid drinking website of THEIRS.

Name: Old Crew Chief
Email:
Employer:
Station: Not NWA, Thanks To amfa
Date: Thursday August 30, 2007
Time: 04:00:01 PM

Comments

amfa's response to United searching out a buyer for their maintenance ops is interesting. The president from Loco 4 says that is United's way of trying to expand. Looks like more techs will be working for minimum wage due to amfa's strength in skill. I wonder what the magic farmout number will be?

Name: uz2bmsp
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Wednesday August 29, 2007
Time: 11:18:36 AM

Comments

To teamster local 120,tell you what.The next contract that comes up for you see if you get to vote on it.This is the meat of the scab issue.Those lowlife scumbags amfa pukes never let us see anything let alone vote on it.They screamed about the IAM but i will tell you one thing I always got to vote on my future.So go ahead and call them scabs I will be watching your local and next contract YOU vote on.Scamfa screwed everyone of us and got away with it.It is too bad THEY don't just go away.Scabs forever at NWA.

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: To: Teamster Local 120
Employer:
Station:
Date: Tuesday August 28, 2007
Time: 06:04:09 PM

Comments

Hey, pal..I don't blame you for keeping the scabs out of your union. But, since you are apparently new to this board, I must tell you most of us here are the victims of this strike and were mostly all done with NWA. Personally, I could care less if you allow NWA scabs in your Union or not. Matters nothing to me. NWA is all over for all of us here...You don't understand that. Go somewhere else and cry. We went down with the ship so to speak thanks to AMFA. I often wonder where was LABOR when my family was going hungry and I lost a 30 year career? Where was LABOR when I needed help? (For carrying the torch for LABOR). Oh, there was a $200 check from the UAW. In honor of them I've scraped together enough to buy a new Chevy. I'm sorry I can't sympathize with your plight or whatever it was you were whining about. Where were the Teamster's when we were all thrown on the street? Nowhere around. Sorry for being negative, but I havn't the respect for LABOR as I once did. Reminds me when I came back from 'Nam...No one there to help...Just a swift kick in the ass. Thanks for nothing.

Name: Where are the updates?
Email:
Employer: Sanderson will make a come back
Station: If you guys do not update.
Date: Monday August 27, 2007
Time: 05:26:06 PM

Comments

PLEASE!!!! Do not let this forum die until the Amalgated Manure Flingers ASSociation is kicked out at all airlines.

  I understand, I know what you need and I agree but we all lost our jobs and are unemployed and underemployed thanks to AMFA. Most of the amfanators have moved on now to new careers and are focusing on making that transition to odd shifts, little vacation and having to work extensive OT or second jobs to make up income shortfalls.  I, like you, don't want to shut this website down but I don't have the time to update it twice daily as we once did.

Name: Teamster Local 120
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Sunday August 26, 2007
Time: 08:33:17 AM

Comments

As a Teamster myself, it has come to my attention that the scabs that broke ranks and crossed their own picket line at Northwest Airlines are looking to now become Teamsters. Thats just what we need is a bunch of low life scum bags that cross picket lines in our rank and file. I have heard all of your whining here, about your old Union. I have read all the reasons that you make up for scabbing, but truth be told, your excuses mean nothing.to me or the rest of our rank and file. "YOU ARE SCABS" We Teamsters have it bad enough trying to hold onto the wages and benefits we have, so the last thing we need is to let some filthy scabs in that have already proven they can never be trusted again. Good thing is, that if our Teamster leadership is so foolish as to accept these scum bags, it should make for some interesteing monthly meetings. We now have a good amount of former Northwest Airlines workers within our rank and file now. You might recognize them, they were the ones that stayed on the picket line, the ones who know what it is to be a member of a Union no matter how hard it gets. I look forward to the brawls every month at the meeting, if and we are ever so stupid to allow the scabs into the Teamsters. And I for one know whose side I will be on.

Name: D.T.
Email:
Employer: Bombardier
Station:
Date: Saturday August 25, 2007
Time: 02:54:29 PM

Comments

Vinny Bazzicini had a heart attack on died on Friday. Rest in peace my freind

  Vince will be missed.  Our deepest sympathies go out to his family.

Name: wulfman
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Saturday August 25, 2007
Time: 03:53:15 AM

Comments

It is sad and hard to believe, but a very good man has passed. One I am proud to have known and respected from the first time I met him. He reminded me of the characters in the book "Tuesday's with Morrie", the feeling that the character felt after visiting his friend was that Morrie always made him feel that when they were together, he was the sole focus and attention of Morrie. Vince, was that kind of man, he always made you feel that you were the only one in the world with him when you engaged him in discussion, No matter what the discussion was about. I will always remember that about him and be eternally greatful for knowing him. I am a better man for that! Thanx Vinni- I will miss you very much, and until we meet again. God please rest his soul...

Name: Interested observer
Email:
Employer:
Station: msp
Date: Friday August 24, 2007
Time: 11:22:17 AM

Comments

I just read that United is going to outsource all the heavy maintenance. What do the amfanuts at United looking for their industry leading contract have to say about that? The only thing industry leading about AMFA is the number of jobs they manage to lose everywhere they go.

Name: notnwa
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Thursday August 23, 2007
Time: 07:57:33 PM

Comments

Hey re-boy. Looks like I won't have to wait until 2010 to get your job. Lets see how you like starting over. It's amfa or your job you dumb ass.

Name: Old Crew Chief
Email:
Employer:
Station: Not NWA, Thanks to amfa
Date: Thursday August 23, 2007
Time: 11:55:03 AM

Comments

Richard Anderson has been appointed CEO at Delta. Time for amfa to run over there and organize. They can get plenty of dues dough, hand Anderson the outsourcing formula that will lead to the destruction of all mech jobs at DAL and run like the wind with the payoff dough. amfa will do this all while muttering their mantra about working for ALL members. Full pay till the last day, and there will be a LAST day. Cute.

Name: Wingnut
Email:
Employer: Ex-NWA
Station: MSP
Date: Thursday August 23, 2007
Time: 10:50:01 AM

Comments

Well, the magnitude of the ignorance of the so called "honorable" exnwa.com strikers continues to grow. They just celebrated the second year anniversary of the most retarded move a union has made in decades. AMFA sets them on a career suicide mission and these morons believe they were "honorable" to fall on the sword for such egotistical leaders. There's no "honor" in that, it is called stupidity. Now they spend every day with their minds clouded by hatred for their fellow union brothers that saw through AMFA's B.S. After only being on strike for three months, McFarlane and Young told the members they should not want to return to their jobs back at NWA. After that there was no way AMFA would ever get you your job back! Why would they when the so called leaders negotiate a TA that saved jobs when they didn't want you to work there anymore. McFarlane and Young should be in jail for what they did. Ludwig too, for blowing so much smoke up the koolaid drinkers asses, when he kept telling everyone that the strike plan was working!

Name: xrf6tu
Email: Re, its simple
Employer:
Station:
Date: Tuesday August 21, 2007
Time: 08:17:19 PM

Comments

What kind of phucktard does the airline industry have except fot you! From picking in the fields, to grassni**8r, to working on commercial jets. I aint flying till jeeesuuus comes back!

Name: cut your lawn for 1 million Ameros
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Tuesday August 21, 2007
Time: 08:03:38 PM

Comments

Will some of you uniturd assholes tell me how many recalls are left from Scabair (crossing at the roads) so I can get an idea of when if "never" they will go to the street for mexigers and hire me and pablo me brother, I have your Amfa nuts hangin, the left nut is th IAM, and the right nut is the IBT, Your are ILL Caldre uno putah, cabrone!

Name: sayitaintso
Email:
Employer:
Station: nwa
Date: Tuesday August 21, 2007
Time: 08:43:38 AM

Comments

Ole nwa has been looking for someone to take over its 757 overnight work in Detroit.Nwa told the mechs that it won't be them.Sooooo they are looking for a vendor to do it.They found one and scamfa blessed it with only one requirement.That they will not pay them more than the nwa mechs.

Name: uz2bmsp
Email:
Employer:
Station: me
Date: Tuesday August 21, 2007
Time: 08:31:22 AM

Comments

Trouble is brewing at united at ORD. Seems some scamfa members are starting to recall its local president. They are upset with him that he might not be telling them all that is going on.Really? I heard ole united is looking to get rid of its maintenance.Engine shop et al.Must be that rock solid farm out language again.You united scamfanuts are so screwed.

Name: Ben Dover
Email:
Employer: ontheinside@nwa.com
Station: nwa
Date: Monday August 20, 2007
Time: 09:11:44 AM

Comments

In early 2005, I remember every morning, coming to work at building "B", and there would be a handful of mechanics, loading tool boxes, in to the guys trucks. Thats the AMFA I remember.

Name: Steven B. Gehlen
Email: sbgehlen@msn.com
Employer: NWA
Station: MSP
Date: Saturday August 18, 2007
Time: 11:53:02 AM

Comments

To the Informer: A rebuttal. Due to the high frequency of comments recently directed to me, I am compelled to respond. I do not frequent this site. My name is Steve Gehlen and I returned to NWA after a long 19 month 30 day struggle. Ambivilance is the only word that describes my position on the AMFA/strike issue. If the "Informer" actually talked to me, he would understand. But to print my name with false information really, really irritates me. I will not deny the truth. If a man loses wealth, he loses much. If a man loses a friend, he loses more. If a man loses his honor, he has lost it all. That's three strikes against you "Informer." I hold no animosity against any man...We were "played." In the chess game of life, we are all pawns...It's always about the King and Queen. I did not return to comdemn, but to try to heal. I cannot change the past, but perhaps I can influence the future. I enjoy my job as a general inspector, and actually I was okay with not returning to NWA. I am glad I did. I do believe in Providence. Everything happens for a reason. My personal struggle (in hindsight) branded me a depth of understanding that molded me into a better person. What happened at NWA is simply a combination of the top four deadly sins (pride, greed, wrath, & envy) on both sides. So in closing...Do not believe the words of a man who is afraid to reveal his identity. Retain those things that are good, reject those that are bad. Thank you for posting this. Steve Gehlen, 097654, NW 73.

Name: JAFO
Email: amfasucks@dell.com
Employer: Don't Want One
Station: USA
Date: Saturday August 18, 2007
Time: 11:49:24 AM

Comments

To former mech: Why do you insist on classifying AMFA as a union? AMFA is an association a very distinct and different entity from a labor union. That point aside AMFA is a scab association by definition. AMFA admitted in sworn testimony going to NWA and saying in effect, help us win representation and we will lower your labor costs. That action alone constitutes an offer to do labor cheaper than the union currently representing the employees and is the true definition of a scab action. Offering to do work cheaper than it is currently being done. (Golofski, Hurley, Driscoll, Nelson etc...? simply realized the reality of the situation and did something about it. What union would or has for that matter called for a strike vote with no T/A in hand? How many unions deny their membership a vote on the last best offer? How many unions turn down settlement offer after settlement offer until they have arrived at the worst possible offer? I suppose in your heart of hearts you believe this was all bad luck? Sorry I don’t. I believe it was all part of a plan. Finally is it not a fact that the AMFA came to a consensual agreement with Northwest airlines? Is it not a fact that the AMFA pigs that have never missed a pay check slopping at the dues trough are still representing all NWA mechs? Good luck in your business guy, but I just can’t buy your take on the disaster called AMFA.

Name: a hole
Email:
Employer:
Station: nwa
Date: Wednesday August 15, 2007
Time: 11:55:01 PM

Comments

ass hole i will i will i will pay up to asssfa

Name: Ben Dover
Email:
Employer: ontheinside@nwa
Station: nwa
Date: Monday August 13, 2007
Time: 01:56:34 PM

Comments

Some, so called honerable P.O.S. from the amfa puke website, has the nerve to bash Terry Daily's work ethic when the guy had a heart attack, because he just lost his wife. Why didn't this honerable individual mention his concerns to Terry when he was on the property. Just another amfa SOB!!!!!

Name: it's simple
Email:
Employer: mspc
Station: NWA
Date: Sunday August 12, 2007
Time: 10:34:36 PM

Comments

hey , nwa no more , I don't understand all this scab talk . There are no scabs at NWA , amfa was locked out , the crack lawyers won that major decision . You won , get it , you win.ME ME ME

Name: uz2bmsp
Email:
Employer:
Station: me
Date: Sunday August 12, 2007
Time: 11:07:21 AM

Comments

I was reading a posting complaining about all the money the execs at nwa are getting after making all the mistakes.Then it hit me.What about all the money that those scamfa pukes are getting for their mistakes?Delldo,teddie,jeffie etal.What a bunch of worthless dopes.Check the lm2s and see what they are getting.

Name: former mech
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Sunday August 12, 2007
Time: 10:45:58 AM

Comments

I am out of aviation for good. I don't care which union someone chooses to belong to as long as they support other unions on strike. I just want to know why so many IAM supporters became scabs (Golofski, Hurley, Driscoll, Nelson etc...? And why did the IAM chomp at the bit to get as much AMFA work as possible? Could it be that all they care about is dues just like a corporation only cares about profit? If you don't hang together you will surely hang seperately. Just ask all of my CSA and ESE friends at the out stations. I worked with and became friends with dozens of them while fixing jetways at the outstations. I will still support unions and there cause but I will never belong to one again. I don't think I can as I now own my company. Yes I pay my employees well and I don't ask for paycuts when I need more for my self!

Name: it's simple
Email:
Employer: mspc
Station: NWA
Date: Friday August 10, 2007
Time: 05:46:52 PM

Comments

You can say like amfa this or IBT that but the only thing that counts is numbers PERIOD . Unions strenght is numbers . If amfa had any class they would call the IAM and beg to be bought , thus finally closing this festuring wound to labor . The F/A should think about the IAM as well . They are the only ones with the skill to represent everyone . The IAM is already here . Go out east and visit the IAM's international headquarters then go to Denver and visit the amfa national headquarters in the basement of McFairlane's house you deside.

Name: The Informer
Email:
Employer: NWA
Station: MSP
Date: Sunday August 05, 2007
Time: 04:52:36 PM

Comments

****NEWS FLASH**** Amfa Local 33 looking for money!!!! Last month 2 returning general inspectors ( Steve Gehlen & Kel Abrams ) at the advise of Amfa local 33 invited a replacement general inspector ( Max Flores ) to the association business meeting.Max being a little hesitant to go and be harassed decided to go and was not harassed what so ever as a matter of fact after the business meeting local 33 rolled out the red carpet for Max and he had a special private meeting with Ted Ludwig.Ted explained that if Max would immediately start paying dues to Amfa, local 33 would waive his inneciation and any penalty fees.Ted also told Max that he needed to hand out dues check off forms to all the people on the inside.Ted told Max that if he agreed to the terms all would be forgiven and all would be forgotten and that Max would be a member in good standing.Max feeling a little intimidated agreed to the terms.Max then asked Ted what about all the NWA guys that came back???? Ted told Max that is simple, that all the guys that went back have to do is pay back dues to the day they went back to NWA and start paying dues and again all will be forgiven and all will be forgotten and they too would be members in good standing.In closing as of July Amfa had 7 dues paying members at NWA and all Amfa cares about is the MONEY.

Name: notnwa
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Saturday August 04, 2007
Time: 11:22:18 AM

Comments

Anybody who needs a reason to get rid of amfa should read exnwa.com. Now the little minds don't like anyone who wants a job at NWA. Just who in hell do they think they are. They can't run their own life's, so now they want to ruin everybody's else. amfa should be wiped from the face of this earth.

Name: nwa no more
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Wednesday August 01, 2007
Time: 07:42:34 AM

Comments

hey assholes........who gives a crap amfa or not amfa. The bottom line here are SCABS.....any other unions thinking of support NWA SCABS are also SCABS. You just don't shit on your union brothers. This was what I was taught from my father and his father. Needs to let the world knows who the scabs are.........

Name: Greg Benson
Email: gjbenson@sbcglobal.net
Employer: UAL
Station: ORD
Date: Wednesday August 01, 2007
Time: 03:49:57 AM

Comments

Go to the teamstersatual website and take a look at the only salvation we have. Our shit is truly in the wind if we dont get the IBT on board. AMFA is a failed experiment that we have all paid dearly for. The clock is ticking away and if we fail in this endevour we will pay dearly. We will all be down the road kicking stones while the Koreans, Salvatorens, Mexicans will be doing our work and the Jack-asses in Mgmt. will be more than happy to sign off on anything that they do with thier A&P numbers. Time to wake the F. U. and get on board

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: R&E Man
Employer: Really Stupid Man
Station:
Date: Tuesday July 31, 2007
Time: 05:38:52 PM

Comments

LOL Fool. Hit a nerve? Listen to Amfanator...You will be traveling the path of distruction we did...you clown. Hey, why didn't you all at UAL vote to go on strike BEFORE NWA? Your contract was as bad as the one WE struck for ; No balls or just greedy? Both, you say? Later 'UNION' Brotha! Remember your motto: ME ME ME!

Name: JAFO
Email: amfasucks@r&e man.com
Employer: Don't Need One
Station: USA
Date: Monday July 30, 2007
Time: 09:23:35 AM

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Sad, Sad, Sad. Here we go again. We along with good people at UAL will have to once again be subjected the to mindless rantings of the AMFA. The latest example is the R&E Man. UAL Mechs; read this fools rhetoric and be afraid, very afraid. The "It was the people at NWA stupid" dog won't hunt. Back before AMFA took over at NWA the AMFA people were together regardless of what Company they worked for. All the AMFA leaders came from this group, the malcontent know-it-alls. To the good guys at UAL you have had plenty of time to get over your defeat at the hands of the AMFA bullshit artists. You have all the tools you need to defeat them in the record of the NWA failure. You have to challenge the lies and take on the bullies. You have to do it in the shop, in the break room, on the commuter busses, and in the supermarkets, wherever and whenever they show up. It's time to dig in and throw these bastards out. If you sit back and let them run their jaws unopposed your future is written already in the accounts of what happened to the AMFA at NWA.

Name: Hey R&E at United
Email:
Employer: Your job is gone by 2010
Station:
Date: Monday July 30, 2007
Time: 07:48:28 AM

Comments

Good luck fool. Norman has the NWA playbook, you are all toast. Bet you will scab your own job.

Name: notnwa
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Thursday July 26, 2007
Time: 09:21:34 PM

Comments

So when do we get to sign cards? The sooner amfa is gone from NWA the better.

Name: notnwa
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Thursday July 26, 2007
Time: 06:10:29 PM

Comments

Anybody left at amfa nat. from nwa, should be voted out ASAP. I would love to see just how they like having to start over.

Name: The R&E Man
Email:
Employer: UAL
Station: America
Date: Thursday July 26, 2007
Time: 11:46:59 AM

Comments

We at UAL are just smarter than the dumb dumbs at NWA.So stop your crying and get over it!Amfa was not the problem,it was the people you appointed in to it.We will be fine come 2010. Industry leading baby!!!!

LMAO!  Maybe we should keep this BB open just to see how all of you UAL dummies feel after you lose all of your jobs!  Remember, you heard it here first......just like the NWA amfanuts did.  Go ahead and save this post.....I know I will and while your filing for unemployment I'm going to post it for you as a reminder that you too were warned!

Name: The R&E Man
Email:
Employer: UAL
Station: America
Date: Wednesday July 25, 2007
Time: 10:51:55 AM

Comments

What didn't you post my comments about that bonehead Amfaboner?Out in thr cold is right on!The rest of you are idiots!!!

Name: J.C. Fussbudget
Email:
Employer: UA
Station: SEA
Date: Wednesday July 25, 2007
Time: 02:29:05 AM

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Name: Hello!!!!......McFly!!!!.... Email: Anyone Home?! Employer: UAL Station: SEA Date: Monday July 23, 2007 Time: 11:52:09 PM Comments Hey guys; You aren't doing the anti-amfa movement any favors by not updating this board. It has become a running joke for the pro amfa forces, as it shows a withering lack of interest! Either maintain it, hand it off to someone who will, or please just close it. This is worse than closing it! I didn't know there were any pro-amfa forces still around? Are they attempting to organize anywhere? What would you think if we just opened up all of our archives of AMFA handouts, flyers, letters and documents and close down the bulletin board and instead post some of our patrons emails? No; Just trying to wake up this board again. It looks self-evident that you are getting less and less readers and posters due to the huge gaps in updating. It would be a shame to see this board dissapear. Watching it dry on the vine isn't much fun either. BE SURE TO VOTE TO REMOVE THE UAL (amfa) ACAC WHEN YOU GET YOUR BALLOT!!!

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: UAL Farmouts
Employer:
Station:
Date: Tuesday July 24, 2007
Time: 07:15:36 PM

Comments

Yes, It's true. In order for the 'New' UAL to survive, much of thier MX WILL be farmed out. Funny thing is, with the IAM..I always had a job...Better get back with a good UNION while there's time, you sorry scamfa pos at UAL!

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: Great Posts
Employer:
Station:
Date: Tuesday July 24, 2007
Time: 07:13:36 PM

Comments

Great posts Mike and Ben. I couldn't agree more. I was "walked off" as well..and I thought the same things...I also think it's time to give it to the UAL scamfa for thier part of our demise they helped create. More on that later. (My apologies to any UAL that got roped into this SCAMFA as was the case with us at NWA)..But, I have my bitterness for them for throwing out the IAM...and again..ME ME ME! They could care less about us red tails...

Name: Hello!!!!......McFly!!!!....
Email: Anyone Home?!
Employer: UAL
Station: SEA
Date: Monday July 23, 2007
Time: 11:52:09 PM

Comments

Hey guys; You aren't doing the anti-amfa movement any favors by not updating this board. It has become a running joke for the pro amfa forces, as it shows a withering lack of interest! Either maintain it, hand it off to someone who will, or please just close it. This is worse than closing it!

  I didn't know there were any pro-amfa forces still around?  Are they attempting to organize anywhere?  What would you think if we just opened up all of our archives of AMFA handouts, flyers, letters and documents and close down the bulletin board and instead post some of our patrons emails?

Name: United Mechanics no balls
Email:
Employer: was united
Station:
Date: Friday July 20, 2007
Time: 04:14:12 PM

Comments

Several posts have stated that amfa at united has no balls. Well, I'm here to tell you that is ever so true. They were afraid to strike, and yes, still have jobs and seniority. Wait until 2009, it bye bye amfa and all united techs. Can you say farmout?

Name: Tar and Feather the UAL ACAC
Email:
Employer: UAHell
Station:
Date: Friday July 20, 2007
Time: 08:30:11 AM

Comments

For those of you that are "amfanators" or "amfahaters", and have yet to vote on anything at UAL; DO NOT THROW AWAY THE JIM SEITZ/ACAC RECALL BALLOT WHEN IT ARRIVES IN YOUR MAILBOX!!! You have a chance to get even with this rat bastard amfa organizer and flim-flam artist by voting to throw the bum out of office and see if he can still bend a wrench for a living. This boy deserves any kind of humiliation you can help serve up to him. Get the word out: Just this once don't throw out the amfa mail in your mailbox. GIVE THIS PUNK THE BUM'S RUSH!!!!

Name: Dear "Out in the Cold"
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Thursday July 19, 2007
Time: 11:19:18 PM

Comments

I re-read your comments and I'm a little mystified. You say the mechs never claimed that they were superior? Who are you kidding? Were you even awake in the run-up to AMFA's takeover? And what issues do mechanics have that were neglected by the IAM? It was the IAM who mainly defined the profession in such a way that people like yourself wanted to join it. Again, give me a specific on how the mechanics were ill-treated as opposed to the ramp or ticket/gate agents. It seems to me that they always got about 25 to 40 percent more money than the lower classifications, and, if I recall, there were about 10,000 mechs. What was it you didn't like? Being employed?

LMAO, yep that had to be it.  I don't know what it was they hated so bad about the great job the IAM had provided.  Heck, everyone of them came to NWA for that IAM job in the first place then half of them got stupid and voted for AMFA....... and gave their jobs away.

Name: Ben Dover
Email: onthe inside@nwa.com
Employer: NWA
Station: MSP
Date: Thursday July 19, 2007
Time: 06:27:46 PM

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To AmfaBoner. The UAL guys, are just as you say they are. Some of the layed-off ones, were working as private contractors for NWA during the mechanics strike. That is AMFA SOLIDARITY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Name: The Traveler (with A+P,R+E)
Email: Retired, (really young)
Employer: enjoying life (ex-NWA)
Station: entertained to no end by you kooks.
Date: Thursday July 19, 2007
Time: 10:31:53 AM

Comments

You stated that the ALPA wouldn't let the F/A's into their union......well dummy, you're not a pilot! You were a Mechanic, what part of that don't you understand?~~~~~~~~ Jackass to the end, huh Blue Poo? Good thing you found your calling in life. I found my calling too - at least 7 time zones away from you sociopaths, while retired and living my dream. Have fun punching a timecard and working 'til you drop you kooks. Oh, one more thing. I snapped a photo of something that does a wonderful job of representing you Blue Poo, I'll link it later.

Name: notahotdogeater
Email: Ted's still getting his,
Employer: not happy till all
Station: are low paid
Date: Thursday July 19, 2007
Time: 10:30:45 AM

Comments

Amfa Honerable's are returning to NWA tech jobs (mechanics helper) at $17 a hour. Under Amfa's watch, they now have a lower classification of a mechanic working in maintenance and Amfa is proud to have the members returning to these jobs. Starting over with a new senority date. This association just can't do enough for the working aircraft mechanics future......Just maybe thay want everyone to work for less, then their will be more workers to collect due from. All Must Find Another job.

Name: Mike Oxbig
Email:
Employer: inurass@udknowit.com
Station: former Red Ass
Date: Tuesday July 17, 2007
Time: 03:54:21 PM

Comments

amfaBONER.....you are right but do not forget the amfaNUTS that were at the ol red ass.....and all I heard was that the UAL guys were cowards for not striking......I remember people going after DELL DOE and McFarlane about needing to grow a set.....I remember telling these that people that whoever goes out the door is not comming back.... but in the end we were locked out and amfa was not smart enough to to take that yto the media instead they had to be tough and claim that we walked out.....I was ushered out well before the end of my shift....in the end yes NWA F###ed us over but they did so with the help of amfa

Name: spoof
Email:
Employer:
Station:
Date: Tuesday July 17, 2007
Time: 10:02:06 AM

Comments

Well, Bruce Kennedy- the former ceo of Alaska, the guy who started all this scabbing business, cracked up his airplane and burned up. Search the seattle papers to find out more, a lot of fiction in the stories.

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: To: Out In The Cold
Employer:
Station:
Date: Friday July 13, 2007
Time: 09:08:19 PM

Comments

Hey, you blithering moron...Go get yourself an education before posting, you ignorant fool. Typical stupid unaware amfanut! Amfanator-Great job shutting this moron down. You answered simple ignorance with cold hard facts. That's what's great here and I hope you guys never leave. The sad thing is...these amfanut morons haven't the awareness to understand facts...so sad we all got roped into this crooked amatuer outfit.

  Isn't that the truth!

Name: AmfaBoner
Email: Hey JAFO...Good Post
Employer:
Station:
Date: Friday July 13, 2007
Time: 09:03:52 PM

Comments

Jafo...Good post about the AMFA UAL dumbasses. You know, I always wondered why THEY (UAL amfa) took a sh*t contract before our disaster strike...But they never seemed ashamed of it and were more than willing ...even encourged...the amfanut dumbasses at NWA to go on strike. I remember several UAL idiots say to us before the strike "Somebody's got to stand up and show em'!!".... No one ever seems to mention that. Hey, any of you AMFA UAL chumps care to respond? And don't give me any crap about how much you helped us. REMEMBER...YOU ALL STILL HAVE JOBS WITH YOUR SENIORITY! Another thing..UAL AMFA kinda reminds me of FRANCE during WWII. Just kinda stood by as the rest of us at NWA got gunned down in THIER name. Of course THEY didn't have the GUTS to go on strike...OR...Maybe it was all a setup??? Makes me sick think so called "union" brothers would think like that. But, in amfa's case, they do.

   A trip down memory lane

Early travel smooth in first day of Northwest mechanics strike
by Mark Zdechlik, Minnesota Public Radio
by Stephanie Hemphill, Minnesota Public Radio
by Bianca Vazquez Toness, Minnesota Public Radio
August 20, 2005

 

Striking Northwest Airlines mechanics in Duluth read their story in a newspaper as the day dawned on Saturday. (MPR Photo/Stephanie Hemphill)

 

Northwest Airlines' mechanics union walked out Friday night, saying the airline left it no option. Northwest says it's positioned to continue operating its full fight schedule and that it will rely on replacement mechanics and outsourcing for aircraft maintenance.

 

Washington, DC — The union and the airline left the offices of the National Mediation Board, laying blame for the strike squarely on each other. The mechanics accused Northwest of failing to negotiate in good faith. The airline said it could have reached agreement with the union, had the mechanics gone along with its proposal to cut annual maintenance-related expenses by $176 million or come up with a plan of its own that would save the airline the same amount of money.

The Northwest side

"For the last year-and-a-half, Northwest Airlines has been planning for this point in time. Throughout the course of negotiating we saw very little sincere effort by the company to come to a mutual resolution," said mechanics union negotiating committee Chairman Jim Young.
(So you walked headstrong into their trap, freely and willingly, leading our membership over the cliff!  I'm still amazed at how stupid you amfanuts are.)

Moments after the strike began, Northwest Vice President for Labor Relations Julie Hagenshowers told reporters that the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association, known as AMFA, had every opportunity to make choices, that although difficult, could have brought about a contract.

"We were very open with AMFA from the beginning of the negotiations, indicating that the savings target was $176 million. We offered some roadmaps that allowed us to achieve that savings, told them if they could find an alternative method of getting there so long as the savings were real, that would have be acceptable to us," she said.

Hitting the line

NO FACE-TO-FACE TALKS

On the final day of talks the two sides never met face-to-face, nor did they exchange any proposals despite being holed up at the offices of the National Mediation Board for 15 hours.

Northwest says it's prepared to fly 100 percent of its schedule without its union mechanics. Shortly after news of the strike broke, Northwest's union pilots and flight attendants said they would not honor the mechanic's picket lines. So did the the International Association of Machinists which represents baggage handlers and other ground workers. The airline says it will rely on replacement workers and will outsource more aircraft maintenance.

Of Northwest's confident prediction it will be able to operate normally without its mechanics union, AMFA's Jim Young said "it's ajoke. It's not going to happen."

Ken Reed

Northwest says with replacement workers and more outsourcing, it will be able to immediately implement savings that will allow it to reach its maintenance cost-cutting goals. When asked what it would take to bring them back to the negotiating table, Jim Young, the mechanics negotiating committee chairman replied, "a sincere effort by Northwest Airlines."

Ken Reed, president-elect of Local 35 of the mechanics union in Duluth, says Northwest wasn't bargaining in good faith, and was blaming mechanics for its own mistakes.

Darrel Becker, who was on the first picketing shift at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport at the airport, said he's discouraged by Northwest's demands to cut the mechanics workforce by half and outsource more and more maintenance. He plans to leave the aviation industry.

The union side

"I thought 16 years ago it was a good field to come into. Northwest Airlines is a good company. But the people running this airline in the upper eschelon are just ridiculous," he said.

Mechanic Mark Yoshida, who has worked for the company 21 years, says his last hours on the job were hard since he felt unwanted.

"We realize that the economic state of the airline is horrible -- our airline, all the airlines -- and we want to save the airline. But their demands are so strong, so it's basically that they don't want us to save the airline. And they don't want us period. And as I said, before, we're not asking for a pay raise here. We're just asking for a job."

Yoshida says the company ramped up security in the last few days before the strike and took away mechanics' access badges. He says he doesn't know what he'll do for work if he loses his job.

Sign of the times

NO DISRUPTIONS YET

At a news conference, Northwest Airlines executives said their contingency plan was working "flawlessly," with very few cancellations and flights predominantly on time.

Andy Roberts, the carrier's vice president of operations, said a union slowdown Friday inconvenienced some travelers, and he apologized. But he said replacements were clearing up a backlog of minor maintenance issues.

"We certainly don't expect delays to increase" as the strike progresses, he said. "As we work through these maintenance writeups, the operation should continue to improve."

Execs meet the press

But passengers in the know weren't taking chances.

Todd Olson, of Lino Lakes, showed up at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport with his family "extra, extra early" for a 9 a.m. flight to Disney World in Orlando, Fla.

"So far it seems like it's going smoothly," Olson said. "We're more worried about our flight home next week."

Some Northwest passengers said they were uneasy Friday night.

"I'm a business traveler. I'm from Detroit, this is my home. I don't have a lot of options," sales executive Jason Wells said after landing at Detroit Metropolitan Airport, one of Northwest's hubs. "Let's just get 'em to agree on something, that's all."

DAMAGE CLAIMS

Northwest's pilots said the airline appeared to be running smoothly, said Hal Myers, spokesman for the Air Line Pilots Association. The union is running an around-the-clock call-in center to answer pilot concerns about maintenance issues.

He said there were reports from Detroit on Friday that some of the tractors used to push airplanes back from the gate had damage to their ignitions, and that keys were broken off in the locks of some jetways. But "we didn't see anything done to aircraft that would pose a safety threat," he said.